Hypocrisy.

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It is almost election time. You know how you can tell?

The ads are on the TV. The signs are on the telephone posts. The candidates are on the buses. And the messages are getting on your nerves.

It doesn’t matter to me who you vote for this year (although I’d hope you would not vote for the McCain/Palin ticket!).

In my opinion, Obama represents the kind of hope and vision that Kennedy must have represented to folks back when he ran. I haven’t seen anyone with this much charisma run for President in my lifetime. Bill Clinton was pretty close, but I think Obama may be even more larger than life. Now, does that mean he’s qualified to be President of the United States? Well, maybe not that alone. But to me, he represents the best option for the job.

Eight years ago, I liked McCain. McCain was a different kind of politician. He often crossed party lines and didn’t worry about the bashing he’d take from his fellow Republicans for doing so. That is exactly the reason that you heard so many hard-core Republicans saying they would NOT vote for him if he won their party’s nomination. But, somewhere along the way, McCain did a big ol’ flip-flop. He decided to walk the party line in order to appeal to the more conservative Republican base.

And as if that wasn’t enough, he decided to pick someone as his VP candidate that was even more conservative that HIM! Now, nevermind whether she is truly qualified or not. She’s “exciting”.

Now, there’s a difference between “exciting” and charismatic, and it doesn’t mean squat to be either one if you don’t have some substance to back it up.

This choice by McCain, in my opinion, shows a complete lack of judgement and is more proof than anything he’s done so far that he does not need to be the President.

The thing that is so astounding about this pick, however, is the level of hypocrisy that has emerged from all of the Republican talking-heads. If Obama or Biden had a daughter who was 17, pregnant, and unwed, the Republican spin machine would be tearing her apart. But with Bristol Palin?? Leave that poor girl alone!! As a VP pick, they didn’t think the Governor of Virginia would have been a wise choice for Obama…too inexperienced…but Governor of Alaska?? SURE!!

Don’t believe me? Well, I’ll just let Mr. John Stewart say (and show) it far better than I ever could.

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  • http://rowanreview.com Dhunley

    Dave, about this:

    “In my opinion, Obama represents the kind of hope and vision that Kennedy must have represented to folks back when he ran”

    You mean the Kennedy who said we should “ask not what our country can do for us…but what we can do for our country?” That Kennedy??

    Yeah, RIGHT…LOL.

    Along with that difference…there’s also the fact that Kennedy never consorted with people who bombed our capital, the pentagon, and police stations in re William Ayers.

    Kennedy never sat in a pew where the Pastor spewed hatred and racism for 20 YEARS!

    Kennedy was never embarrassed by Americans.

    Kennedy WAS one of those bitter Americans clinging to his gun and his “religion”.

    And worst of all, Kennedy never voted to let a child die unattended in a dirty laundry room.

    Your man, Obama, Dave, is a marxist and as a clueless as a man on the moon. You have an utterly dispicable candidate who has nothing to offer anyone who believes in freedom, people, and America.

    The only knowledgable people who will vote for Obama (this is excusing the people who don’t really know Obama with the fawning help of networks like MSNBC, C-BS, and NPR) are people who want something given to them, or those who don’t like people, or those who want power.

    Take your pick.

  • Guy Williams

    When yoy are old we tend to think back and wonder what happend to people.
    II guess most of them are gone. Let’s hope that Morgan County has improved
    and offers opportunities today. A few like Bill Bailey was very successful.

    Most of us from my times never saw opportuities in Morgan County and
    had to move on. We were given the tools to live well. The educators
    were the key to that.

    I know they were deprived of the credit they deserved. On the
    last trip to Morgan County I listened to a trashng of some
    teachers I respected.

  • admin

    you know what, dhunley, we have gone around and around on this site and the rowanreview for years…some times it has gotten pretty heated, but we’ve always found a way to work through it…hopefully, we will again, because i have a few things to say.

    you basically typify everything about the right-wing conservative political base that makes me want to puke. harsh? maybe…but for some reason you think that you can just breeze in here and talk down to everyone, and try to scare everyone into believing you are right, and i’m not exactly sure what makes you think that’s OK.

    you’ve insulted “mountain man” by basically calling him a dumb hillbilly on the draw…you’ve mocked anyone and everyone who doesn’t agree with you…you’ve argued about geology WITH A GEOLOGIST…and now you come on here and basically tell me that, because i support Obama, either A) i want something given to me, B) i don’t like people, or C) i want power….

    and i guess you just want me to sit back and be all easy-going about it, like i usually am, because you throw in an occasional LOL…well, not this time.

    did you even watch that video i posted? you like to come on here and post about all the dramatic, hot-button issues so that you can scare people into thinking you are right and the Democrats are evil…a play right out of the Republican playbook…., but you don’t seem too eager about addressing the endless parade of hypocrisy being demonstrated by the Republican party.

    i don’t know why you feel like continuing to drag up this whole thing about william ayers…when in fact, Obama was “an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.” that they serve together on some board now is, like the Republican party, truly irrelevant.

    and you want to talk about Pastor problems? Well, didn’t McCain say, “”I’m very proud to have Pastor Hagee’s support”…the same Pastor Hagee who said that basically, God unleashed Katrina on New Orleans because of the homosexuals who live there??

    and so what if Obama thinks it is embarrassing whenever folks from Europe come over here and can speak English, but when many of us go over there, we have not learned the language…that’s not exactly the same thing as being embarrassed by Americans, as you put it.

    and why am i not surprised that you are still clinging to the “bitter people” quote? maybe it was not worded the best way, but what he said is absolutely true…the Republican party tries to use hot-button, controversial, and divisive issues in order to scare people into following them…they lie about Democrats’ views on gun control, and religion, in order to drive people to their side….you think it was just a coincidence that the gay marriage issue was on the ballots in 2004? that was absolutely designed to bring out the christian vote, which traditionally goes in the favor of the Republicans.

    and i don’t know what in the hell you are trying to accomplish by talking about letting a child die in a dirty laundry room. again…scare tactics, based on what??

    let’s talk about your man, mccain for just a bit…

    do we really want a leader who has been known to let his anger boil over, to the point of referring to his colleagues “sh*theads,” “a**holes” and in at least one case “a f*cking jerk.”??

    a man who once told his wife, “”At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt.”…and then says it was because he’d had a “long day”…

    a man who was criticized for having “poor judgment” in the Keating Five scandal, and was a founding member of the Five??

    a man who has admitted that “he ran around with several different women while still married to his first wife.”

    a man who left his wife for a “younger, richer woman – multi-millionaire Cindy Hensley who is now Cindy McCain”…after his wife had been severely injured in a car accident.

    a man who was Episcopalian his whole life, but suddenly is a Baptist when he’s in South Carolina campaigning…saying he’s been a member of a Baptist church in Arizona for 15 years…even though he’s never actually been baptized in that church….now, i’m not Baptist, but…

    i won’t even start on Sarah “can somebody tell me what it is a VP does” Palin, whose greatest claim to fame is that she likes moose burgers and was a governor for 2 years of a state that is about as far removed from the normal, every day life of most American citizens as it can be.

    your tactics are boring and infuriating at the same time.

    you are condescending, not convincing.

    you spread half-truths in order to sell your vision, regardless of who gets hurt in the process.

    you support a system of economics that says by giving the rich more, eventually it will “trickle down” to everyone else, but then turn around and give them loopholes so that they can avoid actually having to reinvest in the system that has benefited them.

    you are against personal welfare, but have no problem bailing out banks, airlines, and whatever other big-business entity gets itself into trouble by corrupt or unsound business practices.

    you follow a philosophy that has no stable footing, so your only choice is to try and scare people into following you.

    i am tired of it. i am all for a good argument, but you have no interest in that.

    you swing by, drop a couple of condescending, knee-jerk-provoking comments, and then run away until someone counters you, and then you say that we’re just whining and talking down to YOU.

    well, take this however you want to take it.

    i know you are educated. i know you have passion. i know you served this country. and i know you love this country.

    however, in your eyes, if any of us backs Obama, we are uneducated hicks looking for a handout, we hate this country, and we all want babies to die, and i’m about sick of it.

    it is getting old, and frankly, a bit offensive at this point.

    i am proud that i live in this country, but that doesn’t mean i always have to be proud OF this country.

    Benjamin Franklin said, “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Isn’t that what we’ve been deceived into doing for the past 7 years??

    not all of us are lemmings, following along just because we “ought to”…just because some of us don’t believe our country is on the right track, it does not make us unpatriotic…in fact, wasn’t it Thomas Jefferson who said, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”??

    and finally, a favorite of mine, which may or may not have been actually said by John Adams…

    “Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.”

    i love this country, and it is because i love this country that i cannot vote for a man who will continue to drag it further into the depths that George Bush has pulled all of us.

    as for you, dhunley, i don’t know what else to say. i have basically not said anything for far too long, and now maybe i’ve said too much…but you have been allowed to basically be a bully on this site, much to the detriment of free and open discussion, and i just think it has gone on long enough.

    i hope that we’ll continue to speak…in a civil and interesting way…but i guess we’ll see.

  • admin

    just a small addition to my rant above…

    i know i sound like i just hate all Republicans…but i don’t…i hate the views of the most extreme partisan members, of EITHER party…there is no room for that any longer.

    we have to find a way to lift this country up…not just try to scare the sh*t out of people so that they’ll vote for you or believe what you have to say.

    dhunley, you are a good guy…but i do not agree with your extreme views, and i especially do not like the way you bully people on this site, and that is why i finally had to say something.

  • Kat

    DHUNLEY, I stopped by a yard sale on McBrayer Road where you went to church and ask about you and they said you no longer went there and had moved to Paintsville where you’re working now. That was a shock. You’re not as close to help with a ‘kitty litter cat-task-er-fee”! LOL Hope you’re doing well.

  • Thank God, I’m not dhunley

    I have had many run-ins with the illustrious dhunley on the Cyberhillbilly blog.

    If he is anything like his rantings, the people at Eastern State show have an APB out on him.

    The dear Cyber, has taken issue with my calling him and dhundley out on their BS, they end the debate by Deleting my comments.

    I challenge anyone to compare my comments on Cyberhillbilly to those of “Scooby”, and tell me why mine were DELETED.

    Thank God, I’m not dhunley

  • dhunley

    I’ll get to the personal stuff in a minute…but for now, I want to address the kind of stuff that should blow the mind of the rational person.

    Yes, Obama was only 8 years old when Bill Ayers bombed his country, managing to kill a policeman and 4 or 5 of his cohorts….but how old was he in 2001??

    I ask again, how old was Obama in 2001? Why 2001?? Because that is when Bill Ayers said he DID NOT regret bombing his country; in fact he felt he didn’t do enough.

    So now, how old was Obama when he gave speeches with Bill Ayers? How old was Obama when he went to his house seeking political approval?

    For you to try to dismiss this because Obama was “8 years old” when the Weathermen Underground (who, I think, splintered off a communist Maoist group) just shows the willingness of some people to believe what they want to believe.

    And the arguments of the left are littered with this kind of junk. How in the world can the America people trust a group that has to resort to this kind of disingenuousness?

    And there’s plenty more. Take Rev. Wright versus Reverend Hagee. You’ll jump straight up and down—turn yourself inside out—because some Reverend ENDORSES McCain.

    But you’ll open up and swallow whole hog Obama’s 20 YEARS of association with a Reverend Wright who’ll stand in a pulpit and curse America!

    Why? Why such utter inconsistency?

    Now the personal stuff. You say I’ve argued with a Geologists about geology? If I have, I guarantee I’ve won—because I stick to the facts.

    If I am remembering correctly, it was about the Geologists who claimed in 1984—1984 mind you—that if we continued using oil at the then current rate, we’d run out of oil in 20 YEARS even if the earth was one big ball of oil!! Your guy tried saying “Well, he must have meant easily accessible oil”—like, I mean, he’s saying a GEOLOGIST can’t express his thoughts adequately?? Or that I can’t understand the spoken word? Nope…that’s what the man said—nothing about easily accessible or anything else. (Then, to my amusement, he tried giving me a See-Dick-Run version of oil and it’s processes. Okay…okay…got it.

    If you’re talking about “global warming” geologists, indeed I have—and won those too. Your “Geologists” tried saying things like “never before has the climate shifted so radically!” NOT TRUE! I’ve pointed out the Younger-Dyers period. I’ve pointed out the little ice age. I’ve point out that as the glaciers on Iceland receded—they’ve revealed tree trunks! TREE TRUNKS!! So…unless the great flood put those tree trunks there…it means that ice has been gone before. Right? Right?

    I’ve also pointed out how wrong the scientists were 30 years ago when they wanted to spray soot over the polar ice caps to prevent GLOBAL COOLING!

    If you’re talking about evolution geologists…then all I need ask is: Show me one example of the theory of evolution meeting the criteria of being scientific. Just one. And then show me one—just one—example of a complete progression of fossils through species. Mind you, I know fossils are rare and difficult to find; however, without that ONE, you cannot say with certainty that it has occurred.

    There’s more…and I’ll get to it just as soon as I can.

  • dhunley

    Kat,

    Actually, I’ve relocated to Hindman, KY. I thought I’d wind up near Paintsville but when the dust settled, Hindman was the area most central to our projects. I’m sorry I’ve been unable to contribute much to rowanreview.com (some would say I never did…lol) but I didn’t feel I could do justice to it with the very limited time I’ve had. I hate to just jump in every now and then—and be as lost as a ball in tall weeds.

    But seems like I’ve never been able to stay away from Morehead too long—so who knows. For now, God Bless and I’ll see you when I can.

  • dhunley

    (dumb)anon…yeah, you’ve tangled with me before—and lost EVERY SINGLE TIME. This isn’t bragging, folks. It’s just that I stick to the facts and facts will knock out people like our (dumb)anon every time.

    And for those of you who might think I’m “bullying” (dumb)anon by saying (dumb)anon…well, let me just say “HE STARTED IT”…lol…and that there is a very good reason for CH to have to delete some of his comments.

    Hey (dumb)anon—-you wanna re-cap some of your losses? You’re more than welcome to re-introduce any discussion we’ve had on any topic and let the chips fall where they may. I’m ready when you are.

  • admin

    dhunley, about the only thing you’ve ever won over here is a bunch of new enemies. 🙂

    seriously…call it bullying…calling provoking…call it whatever you’d like…but based on what i see on this site, and what other folks tell me in person, you’re about as liked on here as bucket of Original Recipe at a PETA rally.

    i want to address the stuff about Obama and Reverend Wright, first off. I think it is despicable what Reverend Wright said, and I’m glad that Obama took the stance that he did about it and said what he did.

    listen, we all tend to forget that these candidates are people, too. every move they make is scrutinized…if they buy a Big Mac, does that mean they hate Wendy’s? If they drive a Toyota, are they anti-American Auto Workers?? none of us can imagine living in a spotlight like that.

    and i’m not just talking about Obama. Neither Obama nor McCain can control what their supporters say. The best they can do is to distance themselves from it as soon as possible. Even the stuff I put on here about McCain getting the hot-head and saying the things he said…do I think that’s cause enough that he shouldn’t be president? No, not in and of itself. Nor do I think what Obama said about the “bitter people” is any reason to get your panties in a twist and claim that he’s not worthy for the position, either.

    but you back me into a corner, dhunley, because it seems to you that those types of things DO matter, and I’m certainly not going to sit idly by and let you trash one side without pointing out the very same types of flaws in your candidate.

    but seriously…and i mean this from the bottom of my heart…can you HONESTLY think that Sarah Palin is qualified to be the VP for McCain?? and beyond that, if McCain was to somehow win this thing, and God forbid something should happen to him, would you, in all honesty, feel confident in having her as the President of the United States??

    I’m am going to be absolutely honest here…if Obama had chosen someone with similar credentials…let’s say she was a Democrat, and her views lined up as far left, as much as they do to the far-right now…I would absolutely be embarrassed, and that is not a joke…it is not meant to stir you up into a frenzy…it is just the simple truth.

    i know she’s all exciting and fresh for the Republican base, but in reality, what has she done that would qualify her to be the VP, let alone the President?? she was the governor, for TWO YEARS, of a state that is as foreign to most people in this country as ANOTHER COUNTRY!

    sure, being a governor can be a gateway to the Presidency…the Clinton presidency worked out pretty good, if you ask me. but at least people here can relate to living in a state like Arkansas, and he did have a ton more experience than she’s had.

    and as far as your arguing with a Geologist, i was not referring to you talking about the professor you had somewhere along the way telling you that all of our oil would be gone by 1984…or the global warming arguments, which you’ve certainly not won…and i’m not even talking about the evolution arguments, which you simply continue to demand “convincing evidence”, ignoring the fact that pretty much all of the scientific community has seen all of the convincing evidence they need to see in order to claim evolution as a certainty…however, that still doesn’t satisfy you.

    no, i was talking about more recently, you arguing about the process of extracting oil from ANWR or from offshore oil platforms with ME…i’m sure you remember that I’M a geologist, don’t you?? i’m not just blowing smoke when I tell you that it would take YEARS before ANY oil could be moved to the market if new areas were opened up to drilling today.

    even if an oil company could use magical x-ray specs and actually SEE a giant reservoir of oil below the ocean floor in one of these areas offshore that you want opened up to drilling, i explained in detail how it would take years before they could even drill, simply due to the fact that no construction on new platforms will be able to get started for a long while, and once it DOES start, the construction takes YEARS.

    i have no idea what the other stuff is you are talking about with the “thank god i’m not dhunley” poster, or why you are referring to him/her as dumb(anon)…seems like an inside thing that i’m not privy to…but if you 2 want to go at it, feel free…i don’t plan on deleting anything unless it just gets ugly.

  • http://rowanreview.com Dhunley

    First, to answer your question about Sarah Palin—and I mean this honestly. In my opinion, Sarah Palin is the MOST qualified among the whole pack. You may dismiss Alaska as an “unknown” entity to most of the people in the U.S.—but does that matter?

    She is the GOVERNOR of a STATE!! And you know what else I think? I think Obama is the LEAST qualified among the candidates.

    If you’re going to talk about “qualifications”…what in the WORLD has Obama accomplished? His little housing scheme for “the poor”
    in Chiago went belly up. He’s got a voting record that is “present”…what…90% of the time?

    You asked me a question and I answered as honestly and as briefly as I can—now can I ask YOU a question?

    Do you still feel the “Obama was only 8 years old” arguments holds up now that you know the connection between Bill Ayers and Obama?

  • admin

    i will not back down about my dismissal of Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers because it is a relationship of no significance at all.

    even Fox news dismissed the claims that Hillary tried to make about Obama’s relationship with Ayers.

    you are trying to make it sound like they have dinner together every weekend.

    and, for what its worth, because you keep bringing up this Bill Ayers, it has made me have to look into him and his history a bit more, and what I’m finding out is that it seems like he isn’t all that bad to begin with.

    you conveniently are leaving out WHY the bombings were taking place to begin with…it wasn’t like these people just hated America and wanted our way of life destroyed, like the Islamic extremists who attacked us on 9/11 (oh…and could you maybe get a message to your new pal Sarah Palin and let her know that it wasn’t Iraq who was responsible for those attacks?? lol)…

    no, the attacks made by the Weatherman organization were attacks on the government of this country…now, i’m not saying they were justified, necessarily…but they were in response to our continued involvement in Vietnam, which a LOT of folks were unhappy with. again…extreme? absolutely…justified? probably not…but sometimes, true patriotism takes many different forms.

    and about the “statements” you keep talking about, that Ayers made in 2001, i found out some more information about those, which appeared in a story for an interview he gave the New York Times …

    The reporter quoted him as saying “I don’t regret setting bombs” and “I feel we didn’t do enough”, and, when asked if he would “do it all again” as saying “I don’t want to discount the possibility.”

    Ayers has not denied the quotes, but he protested the interviewer’s characterizations in a Letter to the Editor published September 15, 2001: “This is not a question of being misunderstood or ‘taken out of context’, but of deliberate distortion.”

    In the ensuing years, Ayers has repeatedly avowed that when he said he had “no regrets” and that “we didn’t do enough” he was speaking only in reference to his efforts to stop the United States from waging the Vietnam War, efforts which he has described as “. . . inadequate [as] the war dragged on for a decade.”

    “We weren’t terrorists,” Ayers told an interviewer for the Chicago Tribune in 2001. “The reason we weren’t terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States.”

    In a letter to the editor in the Chicago Tribune, Ayers wrote, “I condemn all forms of terrorism — individual, group and official”. He also condemned the September 11 terrorist attacks in that letter. “Today we are witnessing crimes against humanity on our own shores on an unthinkable scale, and I fear that we may soon see more innocent people in other parts of the world dying in response.”

    furthermore…

    In a New York Times story published by coincidence on Sept. 11, 2001, about his memoirs, Fugitive Days, he said, “I don’t regret setting bombs. … I feel we didn’t do enough.”

    After that comment was raised in the April debate, Ayers posted his 2001 reply to the New York Times story on his blog. “I said I had a thousand regrets, but no regrets for opposing the war with every ounce of my strength,” he wrote.

    so, no…i’m going to stand behind what i said about Obama being 8 years old when Bill Ayers was doing the things he did or had a hand in doing…(and was never convicted of, by the way)….whatever relationship they’ve had in the 90’s and afterward has probably not been one where they sit around smoking pot and talking about how to take down the government, maaaaannnnnnnnnn.

    I think whatever connection they’ve had is certainly no cause for concern, as I seriously doubt that Obama considers him a close confidante or mentor. I mean, isn’t it is possible to respect someone’s ideology, even if you don’t respect his methods?

    i’m more blown away by your comments about Palin…that you would think that she is the MOST qualified person in this race is just beyond me. that you’d be A-OK with her leading the most powerful country in the world…i just cannot comprehend it. it ABSOLUTELY matters that she was the governor of Alaska…just one example of what i’m talking about….what kind of diversity do they have in Alaska?

    i like Obama….I think he represents a change…now, will he get anything done? who knows…not many President’s actually get anything accomplished, although Bush has managed to pretty much wipe out the middle class, so I guess that is something (hey…all that money he’s letting the rich folks and the big corporations hang on to…and the corporate welfare….now just exactly when is it that it all trickles down to the rest of us? just curious…)

    …but he represents a shift in what we’ve been used to in Washington…someone who believes in a strong middle class…who believes that we all have it in us to make this a great country, respected around the world, once again…

    i just like him…and you don’t. so, here we are. you’ll cast your vote, and i’ll cast mine, and I reckon we’ll just cancel each other out…i only hope that more people feel the way i do, and are tired of the hypocrisy and backward thinking that has been so prevalent for the past 8 years.

  • http://rowanreview.com Dhunley

    SO…you’re

    “going to stand behind what i said about Obama being 8 years old when Bill Ayers
    was doing the things he did or had a hand in doing…(and was never convicted of, by the way)….

    Why am I not surprised? Because I’ve long since realized that a modern liberal will ignore, distort
    and re-shape facts to suit whatever they want to believe: And this line is a perfect example of that.

    “(and was never convicted of, by the way)….”

    So Ol’ Bill wasn’t convicted, eh? True enough…however, in his own words:

    “Guilty as sin, free as a bird, America is a great country. It makes me want to puke.” William Ayres

    What is it, Dave? You think people won’t find out about this? Are you afraid it will matter to them?
    Not to a true liberal, it won’t. Did it matter to you? Not…one…iota!

    This is a man who committed terroristic acts toward the duly elected government of this country.

    Dave, I’m all for everyone being entitled to their own opinions. I’ll fight tooth and nail for the right
    of everyone to have a voice, to choose to worship however they please, to live, eat, drive whatever they
    want.

    But you’re advocating for a candidate that that will do away with ALL that. You’re pushing for a candidate
    that is a Marxist as sure as God made little green apples!

    And you’ll do it under the guise (and that’s what it is, a guise, because modern liberals care about NONE of this stuff)
    of “saving the planet”..or “helping the poor”…or “leveling the playing field”. When all they really want is
    power over ME…Oh…and YOU by the way, too. Please don’t be fooled into thinking YOU will one of those selected
    to be “stewards” over the rest of us—because you WON’T.

    It’ll be Carl Marx, then Lenin, then Stalin…just like it is every time…and YOU’LL be starving and suffering
    right along with the rest of us.

    I can only hope enough people see through this garbarge and can recognize the modern liberals for what they
    truly are—and they AIN’T a friend to mankind, that’s for sure.

  • http://rowanreview.com Dhunley

    Dave, about this:

    “and i don’t know what in the hell you are trying to accomplish by talking about
    etting a child die in a dirty laundry room. again…scare tactics, based on what??”

    Just what DO you know about your candidate?

    THIS is what I’m talking about:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/obamas_swift_boat.html

  • admin

    well, apparently i know a little more than you THINK i do…

    http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/08/21/jill-stanek-admits-mistake-chicago-tribune-obama-abortion-record

    the lady in question in your link, Jill Stanek, admitted to the Chicago Tribune that she was mistaken about Obama’s position on the bills in question, sooooooooooooooo…..

    and another thing…YOUR party had control of the White House, the Congress, and THE SUPREME COURT for pretty much the first half of this decade…if they are so concerned about ending abortions and overturning Roe V Wade, why didn’t they do it?? you know why?? because if they actually DID overturn it, what would they have left to talk about during elections? how could they try and scare everyone if they didn’t have that sensitive issue in their bag of tricks?

    don’t kid yourself…the Republicans have no interest in ending abortions, or they would have made more of an effort to do something about it.

    also…from your other comments….#15 up there…

    there you go again, throwing around scary words like Marx and Lenin and Stalin and communism, and trying to compare them to the Democrats…and here i thought that the Red Scare ended over 50 years ago. lol

    listen, i may not be old enough to remember them, but i’m old enough to remember the 90’s, the last time the Democrats were in the White House, and I don’t seem to remember starving and suffering…in fact, my dollar went a hell of a lot farther then than it does now…

    so, these scare tactics may work on some people (they did, after all, help put Bush into the White House in 2004, with the whole gay marriage issue…), but hopefully, most folks know a little better now and can see through them for what they are…tired, old, politics that have no place in this or any other election.

    (…I thought you might enjoy the propaganda comic book cover from the 40’s, since that seems to be where you think Obama is going to take us…) 🙂

  • http://rowanreview.com Dhunley

    So…you’re trying the “Bill Ayers wasn’t convicted” routine again, eh? Saying “Stanek admits mistake” and hope no one delves any deeper than that.
    But what was Staneks mistake? Well…here it is.
    “I told Eric Zorn I was mistaken (as was everyone else in the world) about Obama’s action in the 2003 IL State Senate Health & Human Services Committee. I took “held in Health & Human Services” to mean Obama held it. Incredible deduction, I know.”
    Hmmmmmm…doesn’t seem to change the facts much, does it? That fact being that Obama voted AGAINST the born alive act…and then tried to say it was because the language was “diferent”.
    What hogwash!! Even his staff admits this is not right. Here ya go:
    “Indeed, Mr. Obama appeared to misstate his position in the CBN interview on Saturday when he said the federal version he supported “was not the bill that was presented at the state level.”
    His campaign yesterday acknowledged that he had voted against an identical bill in the state Senate, and a spokesman, Hari Sevugan, said the senator and other lawmakers had concerns that even as worded, the legislation could have undermined existing Illinois abortion law. Those concerns did not exist for the federal bill, because there is no federal abortion law.”
    http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-facing-attacks-from-all-sides-over-abortion/84059/
    Are you trying the little hair-splitting-word-game that modern liberals so love? Looks like it.
    So do you know him or not?
    And I don’t know which is worse; that you DON’T know him and THUS support him—or that you DO know him and STILL support him.

  • http://www.naahidontthinkso.info TechKnomen

    Once upon a time, long ago in a beautiful garden, the serpent convinced Eve that God really didn’t mean what He had said concerning food. And look what happened!!
    http://seedsofrestoration.wordpress.com/does-god-care-about-what-you-eat/
    (title of the thread is hypocrassy so bon apaitete !)

  • TechKnomen

    blocking me OK, thats fine, it just proves the facism is real or isreal pun intended?

  • TechKnomen

    Well I guess the spam filter won’t let me post even one link, that is fine
    what ever has to be don to stop the spam drug ads for ED junk

  • http://rowanreview.com Dhunley

    Tech…I got the link. Did you just attach one?

    Thanks!

  • Thank God, I’m not dhunley

    dhunley, I see that two weeks of vacation out of the Country on my part, was not enough time for the people at Eastern State to locate you.

    You are a certified nut job, anytime to wish to return to one of our first run-ins re: the “wonderful” economy (Cyberhillbilly), I am here.

    Thank God, I’m not dhunley

  • admin

    well dhunley, i’m just as mystified as to how you can support a ticket with someone like Sarah Palin as the VP candidate, so here we are.

    i’m not in love with Biden as the pick, but at least he has worked in the US Senate, dealing with policies and procedures that effect our WHOLE country, not just one corner of it. and that is not to say that a governor can not be qualified to be a Vice President or President…i just don’t think that THIS governor, Sarah Palin, is qualified.

    let’s just take a look at their educational resumes…
    Obama:
    Occidental College (Los Angeles) – 2 years studying Politics and Public Policy.
    Columbia University (New York) – B.A. Political Science with a specialization in International Relations.
    Harvard Law School – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude, Editor-in-Chief of the Harvard Law Review.

    Biden:
    University of Delaware – B.A. in History and a B.A. in Political Science.
    Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)

    McCain:
    United States Naval Academy – Class rank 894 of 899.

    Palin:
    Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester – Business Administration.
    North Idaho College – 2 semesters – General Studies.
    University of Idaho – 2 semesters – Journalism.
    Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester.
    University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism.

    now, if you were interviewing these folks for a job, which ones do YOU think you’d be inclined to hire?

    But, I guess I shouldn’t be too hard on Palin…she’s been up there in Alaska protecting us from those nasty Russians…thank goodness!! lol

  • Thank God, I’m not dhunley

    My latest comment to be deleted on Cyberhillbilly:

    “Bill, it must be your E. KY lineage that prevents you from being banned on this site.

    Keep up the good work.”

  • Thank God, I’m not dhunley

    Latest anonymous comment to NOT be banned on Cyberhillbilly:

    “Barack Obama got fired from his Olive Garden busboy job for spitting in white people’s food. His wife was proud of him.”

    But Cyber remains the sole arbitrator of content.

  • admin

    TGIND…

    i know Cyberhillbilly quite well, and he’s a lot like me…just country boys who also are pretty interested in politics and happen to like to blog about it and other things.

    sometimes comments can slip past and not get noticed…now, i’m not saying that is what happened in this case…i have no idea…but i don’t think CH would help to promote any sort of racial-type attacks on his site.

    it seems that you’ve had quite a few things banned over there, and i have no idea what they were or why they were considered appropriate for banning…each site has their own system.

    i just wanted to insert here that i know CH and, even though we don’t agree for the most part on political issues, i don’t consider him to be pure evil. 🙂

  • Thank God, I’m not dhunley

    One thing is for sure, you don’t know Cyber as well as you think you do.